Meetings 13 April 2008
From 4freedom
[12:56] Catharina Jacobus: That was a crash..
[12:56] Toga Yorkshire: Oh, heres my msg again.
[12:56] Wolfear Clawtooth: don't say the "c" word.lol
[12:56] Sour Wozniak: the fsf area seems to be coming along niceley
[12:56] Toga Yorkshire: Cath, I noticed the meeting minutes on the wiki
is getting real long. Each meeting should probably have it's own page.
[12:56] Catharina Jacobus: Hi Sour, I am fine but are you invisible?
[12:56] Sour Wozniak: no
[12:57] Catharina Jacobus: Hi Samira
[12:57] Wolfear Clawtooth: hiya samira
[12:57] Gennady Markstein: Hi Simira ;)
[12:57] Catharina Jacobus: Yes, you got a point Toga.. but lot of work
[12:57] Sour Wozniak: hey samars
[12:57] Toga Yorkshire: Hi Sami, what does 'sth' mean?
[12:57] Sour Wozniak: samara*
[12:57] Toga Yorkshire: stuff?
[12:57] Samira Kirax: hi everybody
[12:58] Gennady Markstein: Sour!!!! No smoke
[12:58] Catharina Jacobus: no smoke?
[12:58] Sour Wozniak: sry
[12:58] Wolfear Clawtooth: hiya rover
[12:58] Sour Wozniak: i dont smoke in rl
[12:58] Catharina Jacobus: Hey Rover
[12:58] Sour Wozniak: hey rover
[12:58] Rover Smit: hi all
[12:58] Samira Kirax: hi Rover
[12:58] Olko Atlass: hi
[12:59] Sour Wozniak: i wonder if alex will show up
[12:59] Catharina Jacobus: Are you new Olko?
[12:59] Catharina Jacobus: probably not..
[12:59] Toga Yorkshire: Sami, I fixed some grammer and spelling on the
wiki you created for FSF. What does 'sth' mean there?
[12:59] Olko Atlass: new
[12:59] Gennady Markstein: Нащальника, маришуаны хочешь?
[12:59] Samira Kirax: something :-)
[12:59] Wolfear Clawtooth: welcome Olko
[13:00] Catharina Jacobus: nice, welcome then
[13:00] Catharina Jacobus: sure Genny :-)
[13:00] Olko Atlass: :))
[13:00] Toga Yorkshire: Sami OK thanks
[13:00] Catharina Jacobus: Hi Grunt
[13:00] Rover Smit: hi Grunt
[13:00] Gennady Markstein: Hi Grunt
[13:00] Wolfear Clawtooth: Cath..what time is the HArdy release party..i
forgot to write it down?
[13:00] Grunt Ultsch: Hi guys :)
[13:00] Sour Wozniak: rover, did you see my sign at fsf
[13:00] Samira Kirax: hi Grunt
[13:00] Wolfear Clawtooth: hiya grunt
[13:00] Catharina Jacobus: ok let us start exactly on time today
[13:01] Grunt Ultsch: Hi girls :)
[13:01] Rover Smit: Sour, yea, i did
[13:01] Sour Wozniak: :)
[13:01] Sour Wozniak: hey grunt
[13:01] Catharina Jacobus: Did everyone see the agenda?
[13:01] Grunt Ultsch: no
[13:01] Wolfear Clawtooth: for once, i did...lol
[13:01] Grunt Ultsch: This afternoon the old agenda was still on
[13:01] Catharina Jacobus: hmmm I dare not open firefox because I just crashed when I did that..
[13:02] Catharina Jacobus: No, I made a new one this afternoon
[13:02] Catharina Jacobus: First is the mission statement I think
[13:02] Catharina Jacobus: I transferred it to the frontpage of our wiki
[13:02] Grunt Ultsch: Yes
[13:03] Grunt Ultsch: Mission statement is first
[13:03] Wolfear Clawtooth: I saw that..i hope it ws finished enough..i
di quite abit of editing last week
[13:03] Catharina Jacobus: of course
[13:03] Grunt Ultsch: I dared to open Firefox
[13:03] Catharina Jacobus: great Grunt, you are a hero
[13:03] You decline The Jester Inn, Pixel Hill, Strayling (233, 44, 53)
from A group member named Harrie Skjellerup.
[13:03] Wolfear Clawtooth: yaaah Grunt!
[13:03] Sour Wozniak: i dared to open skype
[13:03] Grunt Ultsch: thanx cath
[13:03] Catharina Jacobus: Yes I think the mission statement is fine for now
[13:03] Grunt Ultsch: sour is the real hero
[13:03] Sour Wozniak: :)
[13:03] Catharina Jacobus: hehe
[13:04] Sour Wozniak: and i even dared to leave it in the system tray
[13:04] Sour Wozniak: :D
[13:04] Rover Smit: so Grunt, now i have a skype
[13:04] Catharina Jacobus: Do all agree?
[13:04] Wolfear Clawtooth: If everyone is happy with it, i'll leave it
as is.
[13:04] Grunt Ultsch: no
[13:04] Sour Wozniak: im mad
[13:04] Grunt Ultsch: Did anyone read my manifesto? It was intened to be
integrated in the mission statement
[13:05] Sour Wozniak: i cant see my forehead
[13:05] Wolfear Clawtooth: i read it but didn't realize i needed to
integrate them. I thought that was an additional. My bad.
[13:05] Catharina Jacobus: I did and I liked it but I think we should not integrate it in the mission statement
[13:06] Catharina Jacobus: Because it will be too long then
[13:06] Samira Kirax: ...didn't get that point as well...last week
[13:06] Grunt Ultsch: If we don't our new islind may be filled with
proprietary objects
[13:07] Catharina Jacobus: It can be part of building rules or whatever
[13:07] Sour Wozniak: im gonna go see how the fsf area is coming along
[13:08] Grunt Ultsch: building rules are ok to me but what if the prop
objects are bought instead of built?
[13:09] Wolfear Clawtooth: that should be addressed in the guidelines or
rules for the island
[13:09] Catharina Jacobus: I think we don´t need any bought non free stuff, except for what you described maybe
[13:10] Samira Kirax: yep...but what can we do as a group if people not
handle like that....
[13:10] Catharina Jacobus: We can ask people to remove non free items or we can remove them
[13:11] Grunt Ultsch: I don't want to force it into the mission
statement, but I do think that it should be clear what our views are on
this, especially after our Free & Open Island experience
[13:11] Catharina Jacobus: I think we can add a link to your page at the bottom of the mission statement
[13:12] Sour Wozniak: so how does everyone like apt url
[13:12] Samira Kirax: ...special if traffi goes up once, think that we'd
like all, is not that easy to keep overview anymore....
[13:12] Grunt Ultsch: A link is fine with me
[13:12] Samira Kirax: traffic of course ;-)
[13:13] Catharina Jacobus: Yes true but we can keep conrol throught the group
[13:14] Catharina Jacobus: ok, so enough about the mission statement for now?
[13:14] Grunt Ultsch: no
[13:14] Sour Wozniak: we should build another space station
[13:14] Wolfear Clawtooth: Many areas in sL have guidelines for what
people can do. We just need to plainly state somewhere what the rules are.
[13:14] Catharina Jacobus: Sour, this is a meeting and we have an agenda
[13:14] Grunt Ultsch: Unless everyone agrees with my manifesto about
free objects
[13:15] Catharina Jacobus: Yes, agree on that
[13:15] Wolfear Clawtooth: I agree with your ideas Grunt
[13:15] Catharina Jacobus: me too
[13:15] Sour Wozniak: agree i guess
[13:15] Grunt Ultsch: ok, that's good
[13:15] Sour Wozniak: :)
[13:15] Samira Kirax: I do
[13:15] Grunt Ultsch: great! :)
[13:15] Grunt Ultsch: Ok, then, next point
[13:15] Catharina Jacobus: So thanks Wolf and Grunt for completing this; think it is a great start
[13:16] Grunt Ultsch: thanx cath
[13:16] Wolfear Clawtooth: thnx
[13:16] Catharina Jacobus: Yes... the petition to SL U think
[13:16] Catharina Jacobus: I took Grunt´s petition and changed that a bit because of the remarks in last meeting
[13:17] Grunt Ultsch: Oh, I havent read it lately so I didn't know it
has been changed
[13:17] Wolfear Clawtooth: i didn't either. i re-read them earlier this
week.
[13:17] Catharina Jacobus: Main thing I changed is that SL should offer a default setting when people start building
[13:17] Catharina Jacobus: It was an idea of Toga
[13:18] Catharina Jacobus: But I would like a native english person to have a good look at the text now
[13:18] Wolfear Clawtooth: i'll check it after the meeting.
[13:18] Toga Yorkshire: http://4freedom.a.wiki-site.com/index.php/Petition
[13:18] Catharina Jacobus: Great thnx Wolf
[13:18] Samira Kirax: guess it is good now but with the nativ it's not
me :-(
[13:19] Wolfear Clawtooth: the only thing that makes me a bit uneasy is
i think they are a bit too technical. But that's just me
[13:19] Grunt Ultsch: I cant read and think that fast
[13:19] Catharina Jacobus: Ok, we will decide on the definitive petition next week
[13:19] Grunt Ultsch: It has to be technical unfortunately, Wolfear
[13:19] Toga Yorkshire: I'll check it out some more and edit too.
[13:20] Catharina Jacobus: Great, thnx
[13:20] Catharina Jacobus: Next?
[13:20] Sour Wozniak: sry, i crashed
[13:20] Catharina Jacobus: wb Sour
[13:20] Sour Wozniak: ty
[13:20] Wolfear Clawtooth: I understand some things have to be
technical, i just wondered if there was a way to use less jargon so it
reads a bit clearer. That may just be me.
[13:20] Toga Yorkshire: FSF
[13:20] Catharina Jacobus: next is the place of the fsf I think
[13:20] Grunt Ultsch: I also would like to ask to not remove the
original text. You can easily put a copy of the edited text at the
bottom of the page
[13:21] Catharina Jacobus: I do not agree on that
[13:21] Catharina Jacobus: The old versions can still be viewed
[13:21] Toga Yorkshire: I've had freenode #4Freedom available all wek,
but only wolf and I are ever there.
[13:21] Toga Yorkshire: s/wek/week
[13:21] Catharina Jacobus: And I think the wiki will be a mess if we leave all old stuff there
[13:22] Samira Kirax: ...hmmm...I'd like to say that we will definitiv
than put petition last time on agenda next time...
[13:22] Grunt Ultsch: Where do you view the old versions?
[13:22] Wolfear Clawtooth: i use the change logs
[13:22] Catharina Jacobus: Yes agree Samira
[13:22] Catharina Jacobus: yes change logs
[13:23] Toga Yorkshire: Last thing on all agendas should be the next agenda.
[13:23] Catharina Jacobus: oh yes the irc...
[13:23] Grunt Ultsch: I still don't know where to find the original text
[13:24] Wolfear Clawtooth: it should be viewable using the diff for the
first change listed.
[13:25] Grunt Ultsch: Oh yes, I see it now :) thanx
[13:25] Catharina Jacobus: ok problem solved
[13:25] Grunt Ultsch: not quitly
[13:25] Sour Wozniak: i dared to open firfox and skype at the same time
[13:25] Sour Wozniak: go me
[13:25] Catharina Jacobus: so now the place of the fsf?
[13:25] Sour Wozniak: yes the fsf
[13:25] Catharina Jacobus: wow
[13:26] Catharina Jacobus: Well at the moment people are building here up in the air
[13:26] Sour Wozniak: go on..
[13:27] Catharina Jacobus: But Trade gave us land for it so I think we should use the land
[13:27] Grunt Ultsch: Yes, I noticed a FSF sign on the roof of this
space station :)
[13:27] Catharina Jacobus: there is also half of a building
[13:27] Sour Wozniak: well we can get working on the fsf after the meeting
[13:28] Sour Wozniak: bring it to the ground if everyone agrees with cath
[13:28] Catharina Jacobus: The builders say that it is easier for them to build here, but I think it also has some disadvantages
[13:28] Grunt Ultsch: Because of easy accessibility I think that the FSF
should be on the ground
[13:28] Rover Smit: well, we'll move the buildingto the ground for fsf
after we'll finishe it
[13:28] Sour Wozniak: thats what i thought the plan was
[13:28] Samira Kirax: yep...like we were talking bout yesterday...is
good if people see others working
[13:28] Toga Yorkshire: Remember you still have to move it to the new island
[13:28] Catharina Jacobus: Well the benefit of building on land is that it attracts visitors
[13:29] Catharina Jacobus: Now our land is mostly empty and seems dead
[13:29] You decline Factory ArtHouse ( ArtGallery,personali from A group
member named Primo Furse.
[13:29] Samira Kirax: yep...agree with Toga
[13:29] Catharina Jacobus: No people there and no activities
[13:29] Sour Wozniak: i agree with cath
[13:29] Sour Wozniak: we dont get any visitors
[13:29] Grunt Ultsch: no ppl there?
[13:29] Grunt Ultsch: I am there almost every day
[13:29] Catharina Jacobus: Well just the clan of the free and open
[13:29] Catharina Jacobus: and you and me
[13:30] Wolfear Clawtooth: i pop in occasionally
[13:30] Toga Yorkshire: Does the FSF home page say anything about SL?
[13:30] Grunt Ultsch: Don't forget that we are in a corner of an island
[13:30] Catharina Jacobus: but it is nice if people come in and see there are people doing things there
[13:30] Sour Wozniak: ya what she said
[13:30] Samira Kirax: ...like I said to Cath yesterday: more traffic
comes as well from "mouth to mouth" propaganga
[13:31] Catharina Jacobus: The parts of the FSF are quite central
[13:31] Grunt Ultsch: Do we have room to build on the ground?
[13:31] Catharina Jacobus: yes, Trade gave us two parcels last week
[13:31] Catharina Jacobus: next to the skydive centre
[13:31] Grunt Ultsch: that's great!
[13:31] Sour Wozniak: AWSOME
[13:31] Wolfear Clawtooth: oh...cool
[13:31] Grunt Ultsch: Hurray for trade!!
[13:31] Catharina Jacobus: yes, but we are not using them
[13:31] Sour Wozniak: whaaa???
[13:31] Gennady Markstein: Hi Melch
[13:31] Samira Kirax: & as well, all of us should not just have group
tag on, we should also have a mark in the "favorites" list
[13:32] Catharina Jacobus: Because everyon is up here
[13:32] Melch Savon: Hey all
[13:32] Grunt Ultsch: Hey Melch!
[13:32] Toga Yorkshire: Wll lets take our meetings there and people will
come.
[13:32] Wolfear Clawtooth: hiya melch
[13:32] Rover Smit: hey Melch
[13:32] Melch Savon: /ao off
[13:32] Samira Kirax: hi Melch
[13:32] Catharina Jacobus: Hi Melch
[13:32] Sour Wozniak: hi malch
[13:32] Sour Wozniak: melch*
[13:33] Grunt Ultsch: But the sky diving is far from the NW corner,
isn't it? It's in the SE corner if Im not mistaken
[13:33] Catharina Jacobus: Also I think it is nicer for our group to be more together than seperated in land and in space
[13:33] Catharina Jacobus: I think they moved that
[13:33] Catharina Jacobus: It is now next to us
[13:33] Grunt Ultsch: cool!
[13:34] Grunt Ultsch: So any reason not to start building there?
[13:34] Sour Wozniak: nope
[13:34] Samira Kirax: dependable on what we built :-)
[13:34] Samira Kirax: but of course we can left up a purt after on new
island
[13:35] Grunt Ultsch: right, sam
[13:35] Samira Kirax: a part*
[13:35] Sour Wozniak: we should link all of these areas together with a
teleport system
[13:35] Samira Kirax: exact!
[13:35] Sour Wozniak: :-)
[13:35] Wolfear Clawtooth: good idea
[13:36] Sour Wozniak: alex would be good at tht
[13:36] Sour Wozniak: that*
[13:36] Catharina Jacobus: hope he will be back soon
[13:36] Samira Kirax: yep...Rover, any idea when he'll be back?
[13:36] Rover Smit: not sure
[13:36] Sour Wozniak: where did he go?
[13:36] Grunt Ultsch: Is anything the matter with him?
[13:36] Catharina Jacobus: So we agree now on building the FSF presence on land?
[13:36] Rover Smit: about 1-2 weeks
[13:37] Sour Wozniak: i agree
[13:37] Samira Kirax: so tp so far reaches 4 destinations right?
[13:37] Wolfear Clawtooth: sounds good to me
[13:37] Catharina Jacobus: He is moving appartment and has no connection yet
[13:37] Grunt Ultsch: I prefer building on land also, cath
[13:37] Verklikker: jitien Dibou is op bezoek
[13:37] Rover Smit: Alex's moving into a new apartament with no inertet
connections
[13:37] Grunt Ultsch: oh I see
[13:37] Sour Wozniak: ok
[13:38] Catharina Jacobus: ok so Rover can you move the building down?
[13:38] Rover Smit: yep
[13:38] Grunt Ultsch: He'll die of withdrawal symptoms
[13:38] Sour Wozniak: i was worried about that
[13:38] Rover Smit: Cath, u mean building for fsf?
[13:38] Catharina Jacobus: Yes Rover
[13:38] Rover Smit: ok
[13:38] Sour Wozniak: make sure you have all of the parts linked
[13:39] Rover Smit: sure
[13:39] Catharina Jacobus: Then on the new island..
[13:39] Catharina Jacobus: Trade says he wants the FSF in the centre of the new island
[13:39] Rover Smit: ok
[13:39] Catharina Jacobus: I think the FSF should be in the centre of our part of the island
[13:39] Rover Smit: and when will we get a new island?
[13:40] Sour Wozniak: when should we get started on moving the fsfs building
[13:40] Catharina Jacobus: not sure, probably at the end of april
[13:40] Sour Wozniak: fsf*
[13:40] Rover Smit: ok]
[13:40] Grunt Ultsch: Unless it will take very long I think we should
wait with building the FSF untill alex is back
[13:41] Sour Wozniak: can we continue building until that time
[13:41] Samira Kirax: downmoving we can start right after meeting I
guess...if there's energy left ;-)
[13:41] Rover Smit: whu\y do u think so, Grunt?
[13:41] Catharina Jacobus: Why Grunt? Rober and Samira can built too
[13:41] Catharina Jacobus: Rover..
[13:41] Samira Kirax: we're not talking bout the station
[13:41] Catharina Jacobus: I rather would not like to make the FSF any longer
[13:42] Samira Kirax: just about the platform besides
[13:42] Grunt Ultsch: I don't have any doubts on sam's and rovers
building skills, but I think alex would like to be part of the building
right from the start
[13:43] Samira Kirax: ...yep, but as Cath says, we should not wait
[13:43] Catharina Jacobus: I am sure but I think also that we need continuity
[13:43] Rover Smit: he won't mind
[13:43] Grunt Ultsch: ok then, alex can join in later
[13:43] Sour Wozniak: woops
[13:43] Catharina Jacobus: We can always change ..
[13:43] Catharina Jacobus: But what about our positioning on the new island
[13:43] Samira Kirax: he'll sure find his place in again quick
[13:44] Catharina Jacobus: Do you think it should be in the centre of the island or in the centre of our group?
[13:44] Sour Wozniak: we should put out tip jars around the island
[13:44] Grunt Ultsch: In the center of our group I suppose. We don't
want the FSF surrounded by proprietary buildings
[13:45] Samira Kirax: good argument
[13:45] Grunt Ultsch: thanx
[13:46] Catharina Jacobus: That is also my problem with it
[13:46] Catharina Jacobus: Think it would confuse people
[13:46] Grunt Ultsch: Well, that's settled then
[13:47] Catharina Jacobus: No, we have to ask Trade if we want that
[13:47] Grunt Ultsch: ok
[13:47] Catharina Jacobus: The price of islands just dropped to $ 1000 btw
[13:48] Wolfear Clawtooth: what abour comprimise... place in ceter of
island so long as no proprietary with in a certal radius?
[13:48] Grunt Ultsch: But the montly fee is still 300 $
[13:48] Catharina Jacobus: haha
[13:49] Grunt Ultsch: I think that will cause problems, Wolfear
[13:49] Catharina Jacobus: I rather would not get into discussions with the free4all people
[13:49] Wolfear Clawtooth: just a thought
[13:49] Grunt Ultsch: And I see no good reason not to put the FSF in the
middle of our group. Especially since our group contacted them
[13:49] Sour Wozniak: do we not like the free4alls
[13:50] Wolfear Clawtooth: good point Grunt
[13:50] Grunt Ultsch: thanx Wolfear :)
[13:50] Rover Smit: and btw, should i move down the whole building
platform, o just the building?
[13:50] Catharina Jacobus: It is not about liking, it is about them liking to built proprietary objects
[13:50] Grunt Ultsch: You can leave it to me :)
[13:50] Toga Yorkshire: Well maybe the center should be a plaza?
[13:51] Catharina Jacobus: the FSF center or the center of the island Toga?
[13:52] Grunt Ultsch: How many parcels does 4freedom own alltogether?
Not many I think
[13:52] Toga Yorkshire: The center for 4Freedom
[13:52] Wolfear Clawtooth: If 4FReedom group is authorized FSF
representatives in SL, then it does make more sense to have it in our area.
[13:52] Catharina Jacobus: That is true grunt, maybe we should start a rental action again
[13:53] Grunt Ultsch: Precisely Wolfear
[13:53] Catharina Jacobus: Yes and we are
[13:53] You decline The Jester Inn, Pixel Hill, Strayling (233, 44, 53)
from A group member named Harrie Skjellerup.
[13:53] Catharina Jacobus: Any people here interested in renting a parcel?
[13:54] Rover Smit: i don't
[13:54] Sour Wozniak: not me
[13:54] Samira Kirax: nope :-)
[13:54] Melch Savon apologies but has to go. THere is a family event
going on and he was only able to get away for a short time. He would
like to mention tha regardless of the state of the physics engine the
free OpenSim seems pretty capable - check it out
[13:54] Toga Yorkshire: Need to create an agenda for next week, this
weeks agenda is still a good start I think.
[13:54] Grunt Ultsch: I think we should put the FSF in the middle of our
land, to hide it from proprietary buildings
[13:54] Catharina Jacobus: ok Melch, have fun
[13:55] Wolfear Clawtooth: later Melch
[13:55] Catharina Jacobus: Yes but there are only you and mee Grunt to seperate
[13:55] Grunt Ultsch: I would surely like to be a renter of a new island
[13:55] Sour Wozniak: well there was only 5 minutes left
[13:55] Wolfear Clawtooth: i'm not sure I can afford it at present time.
[13:55] Catharina Jacobus: Think it might be wise to set up a board again and see if we can get new renters in
[13:56] Catharina Jacobus: it costs about $ 6,50 a month
[13:56] Wolfear Clawtooth: oh...i thought it was a lot more
[13:56] Catharina Jacobus: for 1024m2
[13:56] Catharina Jacobus: no
[13:56] Grunt Ultsch: 300 divided by 6.50 makes...
[13:56] You decline Factory ArtHouse ( ArtGallery,personali from A group
member named Primo Furse.
[13:56] Sour Wozniak: i would do that but i dont have a premium scct\
[13:56] Sour Wozniak: acct
[13:56] Sour Wozniak: *
[13:56] Catharina Jacobus: you do not need a premium account for it
[13:57] Sour Wozniak: well then i will have to look into ot
[13:57] Wolfear Clawtooth: 46.15 Grunt
[13:57] Catharina Jacobus: I do not have one
[13:57] Grunt Ultsch: Europeans should easily be able to hire 2 parcels,
the dollar is so cheap after all
[13:57] Grunt Ultsch: Thanx Wolfear
[13:57] Catharina Jacobus: hehe, yes
[13:57] Catharina Jacobus: ok, last point on the agenda
[13:57] Grunt Ultsch: I will hire 2 parcels of 6.50 dollar each
[13:58] Catharina Jacobus: the looks of the island..
[13:58] Catharina Jacobus: no of the fsf I mean
[13:58] Catharina Jacobus: Samira proposed something for that on the wiki
[13:58] Catharina Jacobus: So what are your ideas?
[13:58] Wolfear Clawtooth: i'll speak with my financial adviser
(i.e-wife) on what we can do
[13:59] Grunt Ultsch: I don't mind a round shell shape
[13:59] Catharina Jacobus: haha
[13:59] Catharina Jacobus: I also like the idea of a natural envrionement
[13:59] Samira Kirax: *lol*...go ahead Grunt
[13:59] Wolfear Clawtooth: i like round also..makes it very easy to
follow any reading materials
[14:00] Sour Wozniak: :-)
[14:00] Sour Wozniak: :-(
[14:00] Sour Wozniak: :-()
[14:00] Sour Wozniak: :-)
[14:00] Sour Wozniak: =)
[14:00] Grunt Ultsch: I liked the link to nature too, after all it seems
more natural to have free objects
[14:00] Samira Kirax: Sour!
[14:00] Sour Wozniak: sry
[14:01] Catharina Jacobus: So I think Samira is on the right track and we should work this theme out more
[14:01] Grunt Ultsch: And the idea of the entrance where you are
introduced, and the deeper you go into it, the more technical things will be
[14:01] Sour Wozniak: good job samira
[14:01] Sour Wozniak: :-)
[14:01] Samira Kirax: thanx
[14:02] Catharina Jacobus: Yes thnx Samira
[14:02] Grunt Ultsch: There is a lot more to discuss about this subject,
but we are overtime
[14:02] Catharina Jacobus: Yes I know..
[14:02] Wolfear Clawtooth: it a big topic
[14:02] Toga Yorkshire: I'll see if I can find an easy way to have the
meeting minutes be separate pages.
[14:02] Catharina Jacobus: It is not something to decide on in one meeting
[14:02] Sour Wozniak: well then, Rover i gues we could get started on
moving the fsf building down now
[14:02] Grunt Ultsch: good idea Toga
[14:03] Catharina Jacobus: Samira is on the right track I think
[14:03] Toga Yorkshire: Add to agenda
[14:03] Catharina Jacobus: Nice Toga
[14:03] Toga Yorkshire: Also check Sami's wiki
[14:03] Grunt Ultsch: What does rover think? After all he is the other
builder?
[14:03] Wolfear Clawtooth: i'll re-read it also
[14:03] Catharina Jacobus: Ok, thanks all for this meeting
[14:03] You decline Crystal Sands Performance Area from A group member
named Serene Bechir.
[14:04] Grunt Ultsch: Looks like rover switched himself off
[14:04] Wolfear Clawtooth: one last question: I forgot to write down the
details of the Hardy release party
[14:04] Catharina Jacobus: I have a feeling that we are getting somewhere
[14:04] Catharina Jacobus: there is a meeting on that tomorrow
[14:04] Sour Wozniak: when is that party
[14:04] Catharina Jacobus: at 0.00 pm pst
[14:04] Toga Yorkshire: More business is getting done here. :-)
[14:04] Catharina Jacobus: I think it is on the 24th of april
[14:04] Sour Wozniak: did rover crash
[14:04] Wolfear Clawtooth: k..is 0.00 noon or midnight?..i got confused
on that
[14:05] Catharina Jacobus: Grunt, can you log this meeting?
[14:05] Catharina Jacobus: oh it is one hour before this meeting starts...
[14:05] Grunt Ultsch: ok
[14:05] Toga Yorkshire: Talk Sl time.
[14:05] Catharina Jacobus: It will be at the Ubuntu pyramid
[14:05] Grunt Ultsch: cool!
[14:05] Catharina Jacobus: so all welcome
[14:06] Sour Wozniak: so there is a party tomorrow at the pyramid
[14:06] Catharina Jacobus: the ubuntu group has over 800 members..
[14:06] user123 Handrick: hi all
[14:06] Catharina Jacobus: no, not a party sour... another boring meeting :-)
[14:06] Catharina Jacobus: Hi user
[14:06] Grunt Ultsch: tomorrow?
[14:06] Sour Wozniak: but its tomorrow at the pyramid right
[14:06] Catharina Jacobus: yes
[14:06] Samira Kirax: hi User
[14:07] Gennady Markstein: Hi User One 2 3
[14:07] Sour Wozniak: rover?
[14:07] marixuana whispers: Man you sure you can handle the Third Toke!
[14:07] marixuana whispers: Playing...
[14:07] Sour Wozniak: yep hes crashed
[14:07] Grunt Ultsch: can someone drop him out of the window?
[14:08] Catharina Jacobus: our main problem will be that a sim can only be visited by 50 people at one time
[14:08] marixuana whispers: Man you sure you can handle the Third Toke!
[14:08] marixuana whispers: Playing...
[14:08] Wolfear Clawtooth: brb...dog just got out of yard
[14:08] Grunt Ultsch: Is that really our main problem?
[14:08] Sour Wozniak: cypress hill
[14:08] Sour Wozniak: rules
[14:08] Catharina Jacobus: hmmm for the ubuntu release party I mean
[14:08] Sour Wozniak: when is that party
[14:09] Grunt Ultsch: That many ppl?
[14:09] Toga Yorkshire: The natives are getting restless, so I guess
that the meeting is over?
[14:09] Catharina Jacobus: Well over 800 group members
[14:09] Gennady Markstein: Transform!
[14:09] Grunt Ultsch: Well, they may also hang around on my parcel
[14:09] Sour Wozniak: plz answer me
[14:09] Catharina Jacobus: Yes, official meeting is over

