Meetings 09 March 2008

From 4freedom

Sixth Meeting on the 9th of march 2008
[14:01] Toga Yorkshire: Hi Grunt
[14:01] Rover Smit: hi Grunt
[14:01] Grunt Ultsch: that elevator is amazing!!
[14:01] Grunt Ultsch: This whole building is amazing!!
[14:01] Rover Smit: thx
[14:01] Grunt Ultsch: hi all!
[14:02] Rover Smit: Kevin made this elevator btw
[14:02] Alexise Stransky: the elevator is a kevin's work
[14:02] Gennady Markstein: Hi, Grunt
[14:02] Grunt Ultsch: good work kevin
[14:02] You: Hi Grunt
[14:02] Grunt Ultsch: And Alexise too of course! I cant believe my eyes
[14:03] Alexise Stransky: thanks to Ronnie, he teach me how to texture well
[14:03] Grunt Ultsch: May I already suggest a small improvement?
[14:03] Alexise Stransky: yep of course
[14:04] Grunt Ultsch: In the elevator I could chose the floors, but it would be handy if I could also read what there is to do on every floor
[14:04] Grunt Ultsch: for example: floor 1: conference room
[14:04] You: Think that is a good suggestion
[14:04] Alexise Stransky: yep i will say that to kevin
[14:04] Grunt Ultsch: good
[14:04] You: Shall we start with official part of meeting?
[14:05] Alexise Stransky: yepp
[14:05] You: ok
[14:05] You: We had to things on the action list of last weeks meeting: Contact the FSF and ask them if we may build their in world presence (Cath) Contact Trade to see if Alexi and Rover can get some more prims for the conference centre (Alexi or Cath) Retrieved from "http://4freedom.a.wiki-site.com/index.php/Actions"
[14:06] You: I did contact the FSF and asked them for a quick reply but have not had one yet
[14:06] You: I also contacted Trade and he said that if we needed more prims, I just have to shout at him..
[14:06] Alexise Stransky: somebody hanged near the pyramid
[14:06] Alexise Stransky: hangs*
[14:06] You: hmmm...
[14:07] You: can you tp him?
[14:07] You: or her
[14:07] Alexise Stransky: hmmm
[14:07] You: might be lost
[14:07] Alexise Stransky: just a sec
[14:07] Grunt Ultsch: I am willing to fly there anytime
[14:07] Alexise Stransky: rover brb
[14:08] You: Well I did sent a group note with the location..
[14:08] You: So people can know..
[14:08] Alexise Stransky: maybe there are lags
[14:09] Grunt Ultsch: Or they didnt know what to do, I had never seen a landmark attached to a notice for example
[14:10] You: hmmm
[14:10] You: I always attach it
[14:10] You: But if people don't see that, it does not help
[14:10] Grunt Ultsch: please get off the table
[14:10] You: That is maybe also a reason to keep our meetings on land
[14:10] You: :-) yes Genny
[14:10] Grunt Ultsch: We are having a meeting here and the table is brand new
[14:10] You: haha
[14:11] Grunt Ultsch: thanx
[14:11] Alexise Stransky: ahah)
[14:11] user123 Handrick is Online
[14:11] Rover Smit: it was a teleport bug
[14:11] You: Also I think we should discuss what to do with the conference centre
[14:11] Rover Smit: sorry
[14:12] You: I would like it on the ground but Alex does not like to detach it from the air station
[14:12] Alexise Stransky: we with kevin thinking about creating an elevator from ground to here
[14:13] Grunt Ultsch: haha great idea!
[14:13] You: Yes, but the problem is that it takes all the prims from the land down under
[14:13] Rover Smit: hi user123
[14:13] Alexise Stransky: User123 !
[14:13] Grunt Ultsch: yes, I think the idea is not realistic
[14:13] You: I like to see the land nicely developed
[14:13] You: that is what people see first when they visit us
[14:14] You: And newbies do hardly understand how to go up
[14:14] Grunt Ultsch: But this is what they see when I fly them around in my ufo
[14:14] You: Yes, but you are not always there to fly them around
[14:14] You: People come and visit all day
[14:14] Grunt Ultsch: It is very cool to be able to show them anything like this
[14:15] You: That is true
[14:15] user123 Handrick: hi all
[14:15] You: Hi user
[14:15] Grunt Ultsch: hi 123
[14:15] Toga Yorkshire: Hi U123
[14:15] You: When we have more land, it might not be a problem anymore
[14:16] You: But at the moment it i a bit
[14:16] Grunt Ultsch: I think this conference center belongs in the air
[14:16] Alexise Stransky: i doesn't know how to move such massive building....
[14:16] You: Would it be possible to move it in the air?
[14:16] Alexise Stransky: by parts?
[14:17] You: I mean to another location but still in the air?
[14:17] Grunt Ultsch: You could link all prims and then move it
[14:17] Nanci Barthelmess is Offline
[14:17] Alexise Stransky: can't link - more than 30 metres
[14:17] You: Yes, link all prims
[14:17] Grunt Ultsch: oh, didnt know 30 was a limit :(
[14:18] Karin Redgrave is Offline
[14:18] You: stupid prims
[14:18] Alexise Stransky: when i am aligning this centre - i am aligning it by parts =(
[14:19] Alexise Stransky: so it's hard to move
[14:19] Grunt Ultsch: So it's not easy to move it, then let's stay it where it is
[14:20] You: There must be ways to do that
[14:20] You: The chance is there that if Trade gets the new island it will have to move anyway
[14:20] Toga Yorkshire: Ask the help desk?
[14:20] Grunt Ultsch: ok, if it has to...
[14:20] Toga Yorkshire: Or tech support?
[14:20] You: Well others might know
[14:20] You: Like Trade
[14:21] You: We can ask him
[14:21] Alexise Stransky: ok
[14:21] You: If not, I might know other people
[14:21] Alexise Stransky: i try to ask Ronnie
[14:21] Grunt Ultsch: Anton will know it too
[14:21] Alexise Stransky: maybe he know
[14:21] You: Yes, just ask around
[14:21] You: There is no real hurry but we have to know how we can
[14:22] Alexise Stransky: ok
[14:22] Grunt Ultsch: Will we do our future meetings here?
[14:22] Grunt Ultsch: the weekly meetings I mean
[14:22] You: I don't know
[14:23] You: I have my doubts a bit, because it is not very open..
[14:23] Grunt Ultsch: True, but it is a very great place!
[14:23] Alexise Stransky: ????
[14:23] You: I mean easy to find
[14:23] Alexise Stransky: aaah
[14:23] Alexise Stransky: ))))
[14:23] You: If we can make good references on land, we could do
[14:23] You: and an elevator
[14:24] Grunt Ultsch: Ppl may have problems, but once they have been here they know it
[14:24] Alexise Stransky: yepp
[14:24] Tuxed Noel is Offline
[14:25] You: There should be a board there then, with information on our group meetings
[14:25] You: with a tp and/or an elevator
[14:25] Alexise Stransky: we'll made it
[14:25] You: good
[14:25] Alexise Stransky: make*
[14:26] You: :-)
[14:26] Grunt Ultsch: I think that in the case of a tp it should be a star trek like teleportion
[14:26] You: Does anyone know how to work with Gimp or so?
[14:26] user123 Handrick: also tp is good
[14:26] Alexise Stransky: i am prefer photoshop =(
[14:26] You: or on the board there could also be a picture of this
[14:26] Rover Smit: we have some problems with tp
[14:27] user123 Handrick: oh
[14:27] You: what problems with tp?
[14:27] Rover Smit: well, we can't create it
[14:28] You: why not?
[14:28] Rover Smit: when we create a tp adn write down the coordinates
[14:28] Rover Smit: *and
[14:28] You: oh maybe it is too high
[14:28] You: normally people can not fly here too
[14:28] Rover Smit: yeah, that's the problem!
[14:28] Rover Smit: i mean it's too high to tp here
[14:29] Grunt Ultsch: Then how did we all get here?
[14:29] Alexise Stransky: the distance is very big
[14:29] You: Yes, good question..
[14:29] Alexise Stransky: not height
[14:29] You: It works from landmarks
[14:29] Rover Smit: but it doesn't work with material teleporter
[14:29] Toga Yorkshire: If the elevator does not touch the ground, do the prims saty attached to the ground and not the evelator?
[14:29] Alexise Stransky: Hi Danau
[14:30] Grunt Ultsch: ok
[14:30] Toga Yorkshire: stay
[14:30] Gennady Markstein: Hi Danau
[14:30] Rover Smit: hi Danau
[14:30] Toga Yorkshire: hi dan
[14:30] Danau Bailey: hello everyone
You: Hi Danay
[14:31] Grunt Ultsch: Second life wouldnt be second life if someone hadnt come up with a teleporter that can teleport over large distances
[14:31] user123 Handrick: we could create a indication down here that say that On AIR meeting
[14:31] You: Maybe, but question is than if that would be free..
[14:31] Toga Yorkshire: Like 'ON AIR' studio light?
[14:31] You: Anyway, it has to be easy for people to get to here
[14:31] user123 Handrick: maybe ))
[14:32] Grunt Ultsch: yes cath
[14:32] You: Sometimes they also have good stuff on the SL exchange
[14:32] You: also free stuff
[14:32] user123 Handrick: however is good toga
[14:32] You: http://www.slexchange.com/
[14:33] You: scripts and other stuff
[14:33] Rover Smit: well, if we create a box and attache a lanmark there?
[14:33] Grunt Ultsch: We can also teleport in several parts, with 1 or 2 'in between' teleportations
[14:33] Alexise Stransky: bad way
[14:33] Alexise Stransky: :-!
[14:33] You: box with a landmark giver
[14:33] Alexise Stransky: yeap
[14:33] Rover Smit: yeah
[14:34] You: do you have a landmark giver?
[14:34] Rover Smit: no
[14:34] Alexise Stransky: nope
[14:34] Raphory Repine is Online
[14:34] Grunt Ultsch: ronnie can make one
[14:34] Alexise Stransky: blabla secondlife is laggy today
[14:35] Alexise Stransky accepted your inventory offer.
[14:35] You: I got them
[14:35] You: got others too, so just ask if you need them
[14:35] Rover Smit: ok, sounds good
[14:36] You: I gave some to Alex
[14:36] Grunt Ultsch: I also think people don't really look for boxes when they are looking for people who are having a meeting
[14:36] Alexise Stransky: thank you
[14:36] Rover Smit: i think now it's the best way to get here
[14:36] You: No, but if there would be a board with good information?
[14:36] Alexise Stransky accepted your inventory offer.
[14:37] Grunt Ultsch: A board would be better I think
[14:37] You: like 4Freedom meets every Sunday on ... time....
[14:37] You: time is the biggest problem
[14:37] Grunt Ultsch: Of course the board would have to be removed after the meeting
Alexise Stransky: nope
Toga Yorkshire: It all comes back to a Kiosk or Info Center.
[14:37] Alexise Stransky: there must be info billboard
[14:37] You: yes
You: an info center
[14:38] Alexise Stransky: "meeting time is 1.00 PM PDT"
[14:38] Grunt Ultsch: onfo about what?
Alexise Stransky: or 2:00
[14:38] user123 Handrick: iwe can take another day in the week a NON-official day
[14:38] user123 Handrick: where we can prepare something for the sunday
[14:39] Alexise Stransky: yep user123 right
[14:39] You: Hi Julian :-)
[14:39] You: Welcome back
[14:39] Julian Larsen: hi
[14:39] Alexise Stransky: hi Julian
[14:39] Julian Larsen: thank you
[14:39] Julian Larsen: hi
[14:39] Julian Larsen: how are you folks?
[14:39] Rover Smit: hey Julian
[14:39] user123 Handrick: hi
[14:39] You: Julian is an old friend, who has been off SL for a long time
[14:39] Gennady Markstein: hi
[14:39] Julian Larsen: thi
[14:39] You: We are just in the middle of our Sunday meeting
[14:39] Grunt Ultsch: I hear julian but I dont see him
[14:40] You: Same here...
[14:40] You: I tp-ed him
[14:40] Alexise Stransky: ahaha))
[14:40] Alexise Stransky: just opened left window)_
[14:40] Toga Yorkshire: I think he landed uop one level
[14:40] You: oh there you are
[14:40] You: Hi, welcome
[14:40] Grunt Ultsch: hey julian :)
[14:40] You: Nice to see you again
Grunt Ultsch: So what should the info center be about?
[14:42] Julian Larsen is Offline
[14:42] You: about what we are and do and where we are..
[14:43] Grunt Ultsch: And will the info center be here or on the ground?
[14:43] You: on the ground
[14:43] Toga Yorkshire: Pointers to URLs for fulll descriptions.
[14:44] majnoon Planer is Online
[14:44] KevinKapo Spyker is Online
[14:44] Grunt Ultsch: I think there should be an ifo center here too
[14:44] Grunt Ultsch: And a party
[14:44] You: I build sort of an info centre on the ground Grunt Ultsch: a space party
[14:44] You: But it has to be adjusted
[14:44] Toga Yorkshire: Hi Kevin
[14:44] You: Hi Kevin
[14:45] Gennady Markstein: Hi Kevin
[14:45] KevinKapo Spyker: hi all
[14:45] You: I am not even sure if it is allowed to build up here
[14:45] Grunt Ultsch: Isnt the pyramid a good info center?
[14:45] Rover Smit: hey Kevin
[14:45] Toga Yorkshire: Then put a
[14:45] You: The Ubuntu building is a better info centre
[14:45] You: The pyramid is more my personal place
[14:46] Grunt Ultsch: stop building here please, we are having a meeting
[14:46] You: Good Grunt
[14:46] You: The meeting lasts for 10 minutes
[14:46] Grunt Ultsch: the pyramid a personal place?
[14:47] Alexise Stransky: aartgh
[14:47] Alexise Stransky: damn lagz
[14:47] Grunt Ultsch: So what are we going to do? I could look for a free high distance teleporter
[14:47] You: ok, you do that Grunt
[14:48] Grunt Ultsch: ok
[14:48] Alexise Stransky: ok
[14:48] You: Alex will build a board or something
Alexise Stransky: already trying but damn lagz makes me angry
KevinKapo Spyker: cause of lag?
You: Build it tomorrow.. we are meeting now
Alexise Stransky: ))))
[14:49] Grunt Ultsch: The lag is there on purpose, alesise, it's there to test your patience
[14:49] KevinKapo Spyker: xDDDDDD
[14:49] You: :-)
[14:49] You: it does a good job
[14:50] You: ok, I will talk to Trade about the prims
[14:50] You: and about the land

KevinKapo Spyker: about the elevator? xDD

[14:50] You: Also the Free Software Foundation offered to do something with us on Software Freedom Day, so we can start planning for that
[14:51] Grunt Ultsch: When is that?
[14:51] You: I think it will be somewhere in september
[14:51] You: good time for preparations
[14:51] KevinKapo Spyker: aha
[14:51] KevinKapo Spyker: 7 months...
[14:51] Grunt Ultsch: I'm happy to work with the FSF
[14:52] You: We also could open an art exhibition in here
[14:52] You: and ask artists to expose their art here at the conference centre
[14:52] You: free art
[14:52] Alexise Stransky: pictures at the walls
[14:52] You: yes
[14:52] Alexise Stransky: we have big room for expo
[14:52] Alexise Stransky: downstairs
[14:53] You: ok
[14:53] Grunt Ultsch: not on the ground I hope?
[14:53] You: there are artists groups in SL that we could contact
[14:53] Alexise Stransky: nope)))
[14:53] KevinKapo Spyker: blender artists for example
[14:53] KevinKapo Spyker: they can import to a sculpt texture in sl
[14:54] KevinKapo Spyker: the art
[14:54] KevinKapo Spyker: or exhibit as a paintings
[14:54] KevinKapo Spyker: sculptures and paintings
[14:54] You: We could invite them to exhibitions here and have opening parties or so
[14:54] KevinKapo Spyker: yeah
[14:54] You: and then we will stalk them with free software stuff of course :-)
[14:54] KevinKapo Spyker: yeah ;)
[14:54] Grunt Ultsch: :)
[14:55] You: ok, 5 minutes left
[14:55] KevinKapo Spyker: the tv can play movies
[14:55] You: Does anyone wants to add something to this meeting?
[14:55] KevinKapo Spyker: hehehe if you will script this you can...
[14:56] Alexise Stransky: hmmm we know what to do)
[14:56] You: also you can put your ideas on the wiki of course
[14:56] Toga Yorkshire: Need Trade feedback.
[14:56] KevinKapo Spyker: mono implementation in sl, for example?
[14:56] You: yes
[14:56] KevinKapo Spyker: new lsl scripting
[14:56] KevinKapo Spyker: mono improving performance in sl (mono is free)
[14:57] KevinKapo Spyker: mono improves performance in sl with 200x more power
[14:57] KevinKapo Spyker: more rapid scripts
[14:57] You: think you should go to the SL board meeting for that
[14:57] KevinKapo Spyker: ok ;)
[14:57] Grunt Ultsch: what on earth is mono?
[14:57] Alexise Stransky: .NET
[14:57] KevinKapo Spyker: mono is a .net free open source implementation
[14:58] KevinKapo Spyker: you can program in any language with mono
[14:58] Shine Gaea is Online
[14:58] KevinKapo Spyker: or create your own compiler (like linden labs)
[14:58] KevinKapo Spyker: the executables you compile are multiplatform
[14:58] Grunt Ultsch: Program in any language??
[14:58] KevinKapo Spyker: it can work on all operating systems
[14:58] Grunt Ultsch: ok
[14:58] KevinKapo Spyker: yes
[14:58] KevinKapo Spyker: now in mono there are many languages implemented
[14:58] Alexise Stransky: like java
[14:59] KevinKapo Spyker: like C#, Python, Visual Basic, Boo, Nemerle, lsl
[14:59] Grunt Ultsch: sounds cool, but wasn't .net a microsoft thing?
[14:59] KevinKapo Spyker: java too ;)
[14:59] KevinKapo Spyker: no
[14:59] Grunt Ultsch: good
[14:59] KevinKapo Spyker: .NET is not from microsoft
[14:59] KevinKapo Spyker: is an ECMA
[14:59] KevinKapo Spyker: ECMA specification
[14:59] Toga Yorkshire: Same thing
[14:59] Alexise Stransky: ECMA and m$ is friends
[14:59] KevinKapo Spyker: dont know
[15:00] KevinKapo Spyker: ...
[15:00] You: ok, end of official part of the meeting..
[15:00] KevinKapo Spyker: for me ECMA != M$
[15:00] You: Thank you all very much
[15:00] KevinKapo Spyker: thanks ;)
[15:00] user123 Handrick: ok