Meetings 06 January 2008

From 4freedom

_ On sunday, the 6th of januar in the year of our Lord 2008 our first meeting was held.

Grunt.

[13:01] Catharina Jacobus: oh it is already one minute past ten
[13:01] Catharina Jacobus: meeting time!
[13:01] Franq Anatra: meeting time!!!!!
[13:01] Alexise Stransky: aargh neighbors from top are dancing =(
[13:01] Grunt: Ok, let's meet
[13:02] Alexise Stransky: let's
[13:02] Grunt: How is that possible? Don't they know that there is a meeting over here?!
[13:02] Catharina Jacobus: is it an idea first to introduce each other first?
[13:02] Trade Flow: one suggestion, shall we do the meeting on the group channel instead of here
[13:02] Alexise Stransky: good ides
[13:02] Alexise Stransky: idea
[13:02] Catharina Jacobus: ok, fine with me
[13:03] Grunt: I don't mind, but not everyone here is group member
[13:03] Trade Flow: is that a problem?
[13:03] Grunt: Only if you are interested in knowing what is said
[13:03] Catharina Jacobus: is not everyone?
[13:03] Kalilah Beck: no ...i can do that ..
[13:04] Catharina Jacobus: but everyone can join the group
[13:04] Catharina Jacobus: Hi Toga
[13:04] Toga Yorkshire: Hi Cath
[13:04] Alexise Stransky: Hi Toga
[13:04] Trade Flow: Hoi Toga
[13:04] Franq Anatra: hi Toga
[13:04] Melch Savon: Hello Toga
[13:05] Toga Yorkshire: Hi all
[13:05] Grunt: You look like Brute
[13:05] Catharina Jacobus: is now everyone a member of the group?
[13:06] Catharina Jacobus: group chat does not seem to work here
[13:07] Grunt: It doesn't?
[13:07] Catharina Jacobus: did you get a message of me?
[13:07] Catharina Jacobus: I get an error
[13:07] Grunt: no
[13:07] Trade Flow: not for me either
[13:07] Catharina Jacobus: hmmm
[13:07] Alexise Stransky: no
[13:07] Grunt: Could be lag
[13:07] Catharina Jacobus: so we just do it here then I guess
[13:07] Trade Flow: ok
[13:08] Alexise Stransky: ok =)
[13:08] Grunt: I still cannot see my friends list either
[13:08] Catharina Jacobus: Trade could you log the chat please?
[13:08] Toga Yorkshire: I get the meeting msgs, which says there is an attachment. But there isn't one in the e-mail.
[13:08] Catharina Jacobus: very odd..
[13:08] Trade Flow: I am logging but I might crash
[13:09] Catharina Jacobus: Could someone else log it too, to be sure?
[13:09] Grunt: I can log, all I need to do is copy & paste, right?
[13:09] Catharina Jacobus: yes
[13:09] Catharina Jacobus: thanks Grunt
[13:09] Catharina Jacobus: ok, welcome all again..
[13:09] Alexise Stransky: Hi Uzi
[13:09] Uzi Boa: hello
[13:09] Catharina Jacobus: Hi Uzi
[13:09] Melch Savon waves at Uzi
[13:10] Toga Yorkshire: Hi Uzi
[13:10] Uzi Boa: sorry for interrupting..
[13:10] Trade Flow: Hi Uzi
[13:10] Grunt: But please remember me to log now and then
[13:10] Grunt: Just say 'Grunt, log!'
[13:10] Catharina Jacobus: np, we just started a meeting; join if you like or have a look around..
[13:10] Uzi Boa: ty
[13:10] Catharina Jacobus: ok, we all will watch you
[13:10] Alexise Stransky: =)
[13:11] Uzi Boa: ;)
[13:11] Catharina Jacobus: anyway, nice to see you all here..
[13:11] Grunt: It's been a few months since my last meeting
[13:11] Catharina Jacobus: We don't have a real agenda this time.. think just a brainstorm about what we can and want to do as a group in SL
[13:12] Grunt: Well, I know what I want
[13:12] Catharina Jacobus: tell us Grunt..
[13:13] Grunt: A place where everything is free to copy, & modify, an island would be best, when our group is big enough
[13:14] Catharina Jacobus: In februari we will have some more space available because Trade will buy a new island then
[13:14] Trade Flow: well grunt I am planning to get another Island in Feb
[13:14] Grunt: cool
[13:14] Trade Flow: and have allocated a quarter of it for 4freedom
[13:14] Grunt: But we dont have enough members for an whole isle
[13:15] Melch Savon: jstorep
[13:15] Grunt: A quarter is fine I suppose
[13:15] Trade Flow: no, we dont and I think will do similar to what was done last time
[13:15] Trade Flow: the only difference is that I will not be asking for rent from that quarter
[13:15] Grunt: Why not?
[13:15] Catharina Jacobus: it is very generous :-)
[13:15] Trade Flow: think of it as a continuous donation to 4freedom
[13:16] Grunt: No, I want to pay something
[13:16] Catharina Jacobus: you can pay me Grunt :-)
[13:16] Trade Flow: thats up to you
[13:16] Grunt: OK
[13:16] Grunt: I can afford 6.50 a month
[13:16] Catharina Jacobus: I think we should discuss how we can use that quarter in the best way
[13:17] Trade Flow: yes
[13:17] Trade Flow: I have posted the plan in the software war room
[13:17] Trade Flow: thats the hut in the middle of the river
[13:17] Catharina Jacobus: yes, there is a map
[13:17] Grunt: I read it about a week or 2 ago. I hope it hasnt changed ever since
[13:18] Trade Flow: nope
[13:18] Grunt: good
[13:18] Catharina Jacobus: Hi Marcel
[13:18] Alexise Stransky: Hi Marcel
[13:18] Trade Flow: Hi Marcel
[13:18] MarcelEdward Edman: hi cath alexise and te rest
[13:19] Trade Flow: so comming back to your comment grunt, we will have a good space initially
[13:19] Catharina Jacobus: We just started and were discussing what we can do with the quarter of a new island we will get from Trade next month
[13:19] Grunt: Yes, that's great
[13:20] Toga Yorkshire: Would the new island be near by or attached to this one?
[13:20] Trade Flow: ...
[13:20] Melch Savon: I was hoping there would be ongoing events or changing content that would attract and keep attracting people who are interested in open software
[13:20] Trade Flow: attached to this one on the nrth border
[13:21] Melch Savon: Otherwise you come here, look around, then leave because there is no reason to come back
[13:21] Trade Flow: yes Melch I agree
[13:21] Grunt: Right, Melch, we were on the way, but then things went wrong
[13:22] Trade Flow: derailed by few months (maybe we need to use Ruby :-)
[13:22] Grunt: Ruby?
[13:22] Trade Flow: Ruby on Rails :-)
[13:22] Grunt: Never heard of...
[13:22] Catharina Jacobus: Yes I agree with Melch on that
[13:23] Catharina Jacobus: It would be nice to have a central area on the island where we could organize things
[13:23] Grunt: Has anyone heard of Ruby on Rails or has Trade been drinking again?
[13:23] Trade Flow: the central area I am dedicating for CC+
[13:23] Alexise Stransky: what is CC+?
[13:23] Trade Flow: Creative Commons Plus
[13:24] Alexise Stransky: ah
[13:24] Alexise Stransky: Grunt RoR is a Ruby framework(or something like it)
[13:24] Catharina Jacobus: Yes, but I mean the central area on the quarter..
[13:24] Grunt: oh thanx
[13:24] Catharina Jacobus: But maybe the CC plus area could be used for that too?
[13:25] Trade Flow: if you want, but dont the licenses clash?
[13:26] Alexise Stransky: maybe we create a place for meerings in c-a?
[13:26] Catharina Jacobus: no, we are a place for free software and for CC
[13:26] Alexise Stransky: meetings*
[13:26] Alexise Stransky: hmm
[13:26] Trade Flow: lets not worry about space and what areas I think we should concentrate on what actions we do
[13:27] Grunt: Yes, the space 'problem' is solved
[13:27] Catharina Jacobus: I think it would be nice if people could give workshops
[13:27] Grunt: Any volunteers?
[13:27] Trade Flow: on what subject areas?
[13:27] MarcelEdward Edman: :)
[13:28] Catharina Jacobus: free software, culture, building in SL
[13:28] Catharina Jacobus: A Ruby on Rails workshop..
[13:28] Grunt: I could do a workshop
[13:28] Catharina Jacobus: switchint to Linux..
[13:28] Trade Flow: Melch prefers Symphony :-)
[13:29] Melch Savon: Guys -- gotta go, sorry. Friends photo shoot is over and I need to grab her.
[13:29] Catharina Jacobus: on what Grunt, smoking cigars? :-)
[13:29] Melch Savon: Hey -- Melch liken to learn
[13:29] Catharina Jacobus: hehe, cu Melch :-)
[13:29] Grunt: See you, Melch, go grab her
[13:29] Melch Savon: I'll teach one and learn the other from Grunt :)
[13:29] Alexise Stransky: see ya
[13:29] Trade Flow: c u
[13:30] Alexise Stransky: hmm looks like groupchat starts worling
[13:30] Alexise Stransky: working*
[13:30] Grunt: I dont know much of course, but I could give a workshop about how to set the permissions right for this isle, for builders and scripters
[13:30] Catharina Jacobus: yes it does..
[13:30] Catharina Jacobus: should we change to that or will that be confusing?
[13:30] Catharina Jacobus: yes :-)
[13:31] Alexise Stransky: no, let's talk here
[13:31] Grunt: Anyone for the group chat?
[13:31] Grunt: ok
[13:31] Catharina Jacobus: group is still slow
[13:31] Trade Flow: started here so stay here next time we do group
[13:31] Catharina Jacobus: yes fine
[13:33] Catharina Jacobus: Welcome Fross
[13:33] Trade Flow: Hi fross
[13:33] Alexise Stransky: Hi Fross
[13:33] Fross Maruti: hi everybody
[13:33] Toga Yorkshire: Hi Foss
[13:33] Grunt: Hi guy
[13:34] Catharina Jacobus: We just were discussing ideas on what we can do on the new land we will have available in Februari
[13:34] Grunt: Can this group manage without a board?
[13:35] Trade Flow: dont see why not
[13:35] Grunt: Neither do I
[13:36] Catharina Jacobus: I do not see a need for it too at the moment
[13:36] Catharina Jacobus: a board is not a guarantee for success
[13:37] Catharina Jacobus: But ok, we agreed on workshops would be a good thing?
[13:37] Grunt: No, it could slow things down. Let's start without one, we can always establish one
[13:37] Grunt: Sure
[13:37] Catharina Jacobus: other ideas?
[13:38] Grunt: Workshops are a good initiative, but it depends on volunteers
[13:38] Catharina Jacobus: I like concets too
[13:38] Catharina Jacobus: concerts
[13:38] Catharina Jacobus: from cc artists...
[13:38] Grunt: good idea
[13:38] Catharina Jacobus: Yes, depends on volunteers from the group
[13:38] Grunt: We need a promotor
[13:39] Catharina Jacobus: We can all be promotors
[13:39] Grunt: We could place an advertisement on the wiki
[13:39] Toga Yorkshire: Or a news letter to keep peeps informed.
[13:40] Catharina Jacobus: A news letter would be nice too
[13:40] Catharina Jacobus: once a month or so
[13:41] Catharina Jacobus: Would you like to write it?
[13:42] Kalilah Beck: a agende sing/bord ..with dates with events.. ?
[13:43] Grunt: cool!
[13:43] Grunt: It's a little more work than a wiki, but it is fun to be able to see it in SL
[13:44] Catharina Jacobus: yes
[13:44] Kalilah Beck: yes and handy for viators ...
[13:44] Grunt: right
[13:44] Toga Yorkshire: Works for people just dropping by.
[13:44] Catharina Jacobus: It would also be nice if we could get some organizations to join us
[13:45] Toga Yorkshire: Like this meeting with a pointer to the log.
[13:45] Trade Flow: need to be active and visit orgs
[13:45] Alexise Stransky: just crashed
[13:45] Alexise Stransky: what i missed?
[13:46] Grunt: how long ago did you crash?
[13:46] Catharina Jacobus: Last week I got an e-mail from the FSF but have not heard anything scince my reply yet
[13:46] Catharina Jacobus: wb Alexi
[13:46] Catharina Jacobus: We are still talking on what we can do on the island, like events, workshops and trying to get organizations in
[13:47] Alexise Stransky: aah i see thx
[13:47] Grunt: I think organizations are more inclined to join in if we have a place of our own
[13:48] Catharina Jacobus: yes, I agree on that
[13:48] Catharina Jacobus: so we should start inviting them after we moved
[13:48] Grunt: But we'll have one next month
[13:48] Grunt: Let's start with Mingos
[13:48] Catharina Jacobus: probably at the end of next month
[13:48] Catharina Jacobus: Yes, good idea
[13:48] Catharina Jacobus: :-)
[13:49] Trade Flow: yes I will place the order at the end of next month hopefully if my plans go well
[13:49] Catharina Jacobus: not sure yet Trade?
[13:49] Trade Flow: would say 75% sure
[13:49] Grunt: sounds good, much better than 99%
[13:50] Trade Flow: already have finance for the island, need to lock in the tier
[13:50] Catharina Jacobus: ok, if we can do anything help you...
[13:51] Trade Flow: thats ok, I am working on that
[13:51] Grunt: what does 'lock in the tier' mean?
[13:51] Trade Flow: guarantee that I have tier for 12 months
[13:51] Grunt: ok
[13:53] MarcelEdward Edman: that sound oke
[13:53] Catharina Jacobus: Who will move their place to the new island?
[13:53] Grunt: I cant wait to get our own quarter next month
[13:54] Grunt: I will!
[13:54] Catharina Jacobus: And who would like to have space on the new island?
[13:54] MarcelEdward Edman: I haven'decided yet
[13:54] Trade Flow: well cath, this part and grunts part as well as all teh way to the hill are included in the 4freedom allocation
[13:55] MarcelEdward Edman: oke
[13:55] Grunt: Oh, so we might as well stay here?
[13:55] Catharina Jacobus: ok, I would suggest then that we do pay tier as we do here, but we pay it to the 4Freedom island
[13:55] Grunt: I saw it on the map
[13:55] Kalilah Beck: in the hut ..maby handy to show here now
[13:56] Catharina Jacobus: or you mean Trade that this land will be part of the 4freedom land?
[13:56] Grunt: It's the part behind us, Kalilah on the North west
[13:56] Kalilah Beck: see the map in the hut ..
[13:57] Grunt: Where you now see sea, there will be a new island with our quarter
[13:57] Catharina Jacobus: Hi Yoshi
[13:57] Catharina Jacobus: ok yes
[13:57] Yoshi Koba: Hi Catharina
[13:57] Kalilah Beck: behind cath ..
[13:57] Trade Flow: the plan is behind here
[13:57] Grunt: yes, behind cath
[13:57] Catharina Jacobus: So we can stay here
[13:58] Kalilah Beck: the low bleu on the left is where we are now
[13:58] Catharina Jacobus: yes
[13:58] Catharina Jacobus: Hi Sky
[13:58] SkyBinary Nightfire: hi catherina
[13:59] SkyBinary Nightfire: fphew
[14:00] Grunt: Is the map clear?
[14:00] Catharina Jacobus: yes, think so
[14:00] Grunt: The map looks good in here
[14:01] Grunt: Better than hidden under water in the war room
[14:01] Catharina Jacobus: Grunt log
[14:01] Grunt: ok
[14:01] Trade Flow: the red corner will contain the House of Eribus :-) I am building it south of here :-)
[14:02] Catharina Jacobus: What is Eribus?
[14:02] Trade Flow: watch Blade and you will know :-)
[14:02] Grunt: Blade? Th Blade Runner?
[14:03] SkyBinary Nightfire: vampire killer
[14:03] Trade Flow: yup
[14:04] Grunt: What's wrong with vampires?
[14:04] Catharina Jacobus: Buffy the vampire
[14:04] SkyBinary Nightfire: lol
[14:04] Trade Flow: nothing
[14:04] Trade Flow: they dont smoke cigars :-)
[14:05] Grunt: Are there vampires on the island?
[14:05] Trade Flow: dont know, depends on how you define a vampire
[14:06] Catharina Jacobus: Now we are talking about vampires...
[14:06] Grunt: But we haven't defined them yet
[14:06] Trade Flow: grunt started it :-)
[14:06] SkyBinary Nightfire: i think i wuz late hope i didnt miss much
[14:07] SkyBinary Nightfire: lol it took me 5 minutes to figure out how to tp here
[14:07] SkyBinary Nightfire: doh!
[14:07] Grunt: The best was in the beginning, so unless you are interested in vampires you didnt miss much
[14:07] SkyBinary Nightfire: oh
[14:07] Catharina Jacobus: haha sorry Sky...
[14:08] SkyBinary Nightfire: aww why?
[14:08] Trade Flow: do we need a covenant for the new area?
[14:08] Grunt: huh, I make little sense I think...
[14:08] Catharina Jacobus: I've attached a landmark but people did not get it
[14:08] Yoshi Koba: ok, now I'm in the group :)))
[14:08] SkyBinary Nightfire: i tried it but nothing happened so i tried a couple of searches then voila
[14:08] Grunt: Welcome
[14:08] Yoshi Koba: hurrah
[14:08] Catharina Jacobus: yes, think we need a simple convenant
[14:09] Catharina Jacobus: and we need to set a max, time for meetings :-)
[14:09] SkyBinary Nightfire: lol
[14:09] Grunt: lol
[14:09] Fross Maruti: ^^
[14:10] MarcelEdward Edman: When on away notecards are not deliverd (uncheck client->character->character test->go afk/away when idle to receive notecards)
[14:10] Trade Flow: max time 30 mins
[14:10] Grunt: maximum 4 hours
[14:10] Catharina Jacobus: hahaaa
[14:10] Trade Flow: anything more than that we can talk in it about vampires :-)
[14:10] Catharina Jacobus: :-)
[14:11] Yoshi Koba: bye for the moment , and good year at all.......sorry for my poor english........ciaoooooo
[14:11] Fross Maruti: ciao yoshi
[14:11] Catharina Jacobus: bye Yoshi and also a very good new year
[14:11] Alexise Stransky: cya Yoshi
[14:11] Grunt: Happy new year, chick
[14:11] Catharina Jacobus: and sorry for our english..
[14:11] Alexise Stransky: =))
[14:11] SkyBinary Nightfire: a covenent is like a rule book yah?
[14:12] Trade Flow: yes
[14:12] Catharina Jacobus: Grunt you can do a workshop on one world language
[14:12] Catharina Jacobus: yes, some rules
[14:12] Grunt: And it also defines the principles of the group
[14:12] Grunt: And its goal
[14:13] Catharina Jacobus: I can make something for that and put it on the wiki so that others can add to it or change
[14:13] Grunt: Not just rules I think
[14:13] SkyBinary Nightfire: sweet
[14:13] Grunt: ok
[14:13] Catharina Jacobus: Yes, but we also have the group convenant
[14:14] Catharina Jacobus: So the land convenant will me about building and stuff like that
[14:14] Catharina Jacobus: be..
[14:14] Grunt: A workshop on a world language?
[14:14] Catharina Jacobus: yes esperanto or ito
[14:14] Alexise Stransky: i can translate any into russian
[14:14] Catharina Jacobus: you can teach us
[14:14] Alexise Stransky: if needed
[14:15] Catharina Jacobus: yes if you like, translate the wiki to russian
[14:15] Grunt: I would like to do a workshop about Ido, but I dont know if 4Freedom is the right place for that
[14:15] Alexise Stransky: url?
[14:15] Alexise Stransky: freeandopenisland.org?
[14:16] Catharina Jacobus: sure.. we would be more free if we all spoke the same language
[14:16] Catharina Jacobus: no... wrong wiki
[14:16] Alexise Stransky: maybe use english as base language?
[14:16] Alexise Stransky: common*
[14:16] Catharina Jacobus: http://4freedom.wiki-site.com/index.php/Main_Page
[14:16] Grunt: let me think about it, cath
[14:16] Alexise Stransky: ok thx
[14:17] Catharina Jacobus: sure Grunt :-)
[14:17] Grunt: If you can find 5 ppl at least to join then I will do a workshop about Ido
[14:17] Catharina Jacobus: great
[14:17] Catharina Jacobus: I will be in
[14:17] Catharina Jacobus: that is one
[14:17] Grunt: good
[14:17] Grunt: 4 more to go
[14:18] Grunt: And that penguin doesnt count
[14:18] Catharina Jacobus: haha
[14:18] Catharina Jacobus: I will set it in the convenant as an obligation
[14:18] Catharina Jacobus: hehe
[14:19] SkyBinary Nightfire: <gulps>
[14:19] Grunt: what? Obliged to go to Grunts workshop about Ido?
[14:19] Catharina Jacobus: yes :-)
[14:19] Grunt: lol
[14:19] Catharina Jacobus: especially for italians
[14:20] Grunt: Yes, they are terrible
[14:20] SkyBinary Nightfire: why italians?
[14:20] Grunt: They dont speak any normal language, like German, Dutch or English
[14:20] Trade Flow: just bought "4freedom.eu" domain name
[14:20] Catharina Jacobus: They always start to speak Italian when you get more as two off them
[14:21] Alexise Stransky: hah=)
[14:21] Catharina Jacobus: hehe, great trade
[14:21] SkyBinary Nightfire: lol
[14:21] Grunt Ultsch applaudes for trade
[14:21] Trade Flow: 4freedom.org is available for sale $8000
[14:21] Alexise Stransky: =)
[14:21] Grunt: cool, I wish I could do that
[14:21] Trade Flow: .com is not available
[14:22] Catharina Jacobus: hahaaa
[14:22] Trade Flow: .info is not
[14:22] Grunt: good, we are not com
[14:22] Trade Flow: we are not eu either
[14:22] Catharina Jacobus: no
[14:22] SkyBinary Nightfire: what about .net?
[14:22] Grunt: true
[14:22] Trade Flow: also gone
[14:22] Catharina Jacobus: what about 4-freedom.org
[14:23] SkyBinary Nightfire: dont you just love spelling hyphen over the phone
[14:23] SkyBinary Nightfire: lol
[14:23] Grunt: well, we have one now already, don't we?
[14:23] Trade Flow: well dont know about eu, are they allocated?
[14:24] Trade Flow: my provider allowed me to buy it
[14:24] SkyBinary Nightfire: not sure i know eu wasnt available last year
[14:24] Catharina Jacobus: ok, maybe the wiki can be transferred to there too?
[14:25] Trade Flow: once I have a domain then yes all you need to tell me where to point it to
[14:25] Grunt: cool
[14:25] Alexise Stransky: info from en.wikipedia.org about .eu:
[14:25] Grunt: I suppose you have the domain, right?
[14:25] Trade Flow: all 4-freedom are available
[14:25] Alexise Stransky: .eu - for companies. organisations and individuals in the European Union
[14:26] Catharina Jacobus: 4-freedom.org might be a good one
[14:27] Grunt: I agree
[14:27] Fross Maruti: yes
[14:27] Grunt: But what about 4freedom.eu?
[14:27] Toga Yorkshire: Yes
[14:27] Toga Yorkshire: For 4-Freedom.*
[14:28] Trade Flow: we have 4-freedom.org just bought it
[14:29] SkyBinary Nightfire: woohoo
[14:29] Toga Yorkshire: Good job!
[14:29] Trade Flow: that will fully register in the next 3 days and can point it to wherever as well
[14:29] Grunt: 4freedom.org is taken by a pirate
[14:30] Catharina Jacobus: great
[14:30] Catharina Jacobus: now we should have enough domain names to start with
[14:30] Alexise Stransky: well done
[14:30] Toga Yorkshire: Figures :-(
[14:30] Trade Flow: alot of these names are taken and parked
[14:30] Trade Flow: the sold for $8K
[14:31] Catharina Jacobus: it was already taken when I searche for it
[14:31] Trade Flow: now let me see if 4-play is taken :-)
[14:31] Catharina Jacobus: haha
[14:31] Grunt: Grunt log
[14:31] Catharina Jacobus: yes good Grunt
[14:32] Catharina Jacobus: ok, are there people here that would like to help building when we move?
[14:32] Alexise Stransky: i can try
[14:32] Grunt: Maybe we can ask Amies?
[14:32] SkyBinary Nightfire: im v-new but will help anyway i can
[14:32] Grunt: cool, sky
[14:33] Catharina Jacobus: great idea Grunt
[14:33] Trade Flow: all 4-play is taken :-) obviously adult sites are more advanced in this :-)
[14:33] Catharina Jacobus: hehe
[14:33] SkyBinary Nightfire: lol ofcourse
[14:34] SkyBinary Nightfire: i did think i was hot at making websites
[14:34] SkyBinary Nightfire: untill i looked at them in firefox
[14:34] SkyBinary Nightfire: :$
[14:34] Catharina Jacobus: :-)
[14:34] Alexise Stransky: =)
[14:35] Fross Maruti: ^^
[14:35] SkyBinary Nightfire: my latest one looks hot in IE
[14:35] Catharina Jacobus: think it is easier to build good sites for FF than for IE
[14:35] SkyBinary Nightfire: but falls to peices elsewhere
[14:35] Grunt: Dont say those words in here, Sky
[14:35] Alexise Stransky: if needed i can help
[14:35] SkyBinary Nightfire: oops
[14:35] SkyBinary Nightfire: my bad
[14:36] SkyBinary Nightfire: <back peddle> <back peddle>
[14:36] Alexise Stransky: with web programming
[14:36] Catharina Jacobus: Well we will need builders and scripters
[14:36] Trade Flow: what are you planning toi build cath?
[14:36] SkyBinary Nightfire: build it and they will come
[14:37] Catharina Jacobus: I am not planning to build anything because I am not good at it..
[14:37] Grunt: Maybe Ambro can help building something
[14:37] Catharina Jacobus: Yes Ambro maybe and I think also new people will come in when we start
[14:37] Trade Flow: ok
[14:38] Grunt: We could publish a list on the wiki of thing we want to be built
[14:38] Catharina Jacobus: And Grunt and Trade can help too
[14:38] Trade Flow: I will try
[14:38] Grunt: I'm a very slow builder
[14:38] Catharina Jacobus: and Marcel if he likes...
[14:39] MarcelEdward Edman: if I got the time
[14:39] Catharina Jacobus: yes
[14:39] Catharina Jacobus: a list on the wiki is a good idea
[14:39] Grunt: Yes, everything begins by knowing what you want
[14:40] Catharina Jacobus: wow they are ice skating in Mexico...
[14:40] Catharina Jacobus: and it is snowing in Thereran
[14:40] Catharina Jacobus: how so global warming?
[14:40] Grunt: Snowing in Teheran??
[14:40] Catharina Jacobus: yes
[14:40] Toga Yorkshire: So much for global warming.
[14:41] Catharina Jacobus: skating in mexico
[14:41] Catharina Jacobus: it was just on the news here..
[14:41] Grunt: Didn't know they had skates over there
[14:41] Catharina Jacobus: It was very crowded with not very good skaters
[14:41] SkyBinary Nightfire: lol
[14:41] Grunt: What about our meeting?
[14:42] Trade Flow: its dangerous skating in mexico
[14:42] Trade Flow: with them eating beans all the time
[14:42] Catharina Jacobus: I think I close this meeting if that is ok with all
[14:42] Grunt: hmm ok...
[14:42] Trade Flow: ok
[14:42] Fross Maruti: ok
[14:42] Catharina Jacobus: Well you can stil say something very important..
[14:42] Toga Yorkshire: When is the next meeting ?
[14:43] Catharina Jacobus: hmmm yes..
[14:43] Trade Flow: same time 1st sunday next month
[14:43] Catharina Jacobus: I would like weekly short meetings
[14:43] Catharina Jacobus: max one hour
[14:43] Toga Yorkshire: Need to set a cron to remind me.
[14:43] Catharina Jacobus: but maybe it is too much
[14:43] Grunt: I don't believe in short meetings
[14:44] Toga Yorkshire: Hell, it takes 1/2 an hour just to seat everyone ;-)
[14:44] Trade Flow: at work we do a 10 minute daily meeting at start of day called "Scrum"
[14:44] Catharina Jacobus: haha
[14:44] MarcelEdward Edman: ameeting should not last more that 30 min at most
[14:44] Catharina Jacobus: Well I think a meeting once a month is slowing things..
[14:45] Grunt: that's true
[14:45] Catharina Jacobus: I agree with marcel but on SL 30 minutes is a bit short
[14:45] Grunt: 1 hour?
[14:45] Catharina Jacobus: 1 hour every sunday would be fine with me
[14:46] Trade Flow: ok
[14:46] Grunt: ok
[14:46] Catharina Jacobus: or 10 minutes every day
[14:46] Toga Yorkshire: ok
[14:46] Grunt: lol
[14:46] Fross Maruti: ok
[14:46] Trade Flow: if you want format http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrum_(development)
[14:46] Toga Yorkshire: ok for 1hour every Sunday
[14:47] Toga Yorkshire: 1pm SL time?
[14:47] Trade Flow: yes
[14:47] Catharina Jacobus: ok, we go for that
[14:47] MarcelEdward Edman: oke
[14:47] Grunt: What on earth is Scrum development...?
[14:48] Catharina Jacobus: all agree?
[14:48] Trade Flow: agree
[14:48] Alexise Stransky: yeah
[14:48] Toga Yorkshire: I need to fly, good meeting. Bye all.
[14:48] Fross Maruti: jop
[14:48] SkyBinary Nightfire: yup
[14:48] Alexise Stransky: cya
[14:48] SkyBinary Nightfire: bi
[14:48] Trade Flow: cu
[14:48] Catharina Jacobus: safe flight Toga and thanks
[14:48] Grunt: have a good flight
[14:49] Grunt: I agree too
[14:49] Catharina Jacobus: hehe it was nice to have a nice meeting :-)